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Re: Wmmon under FreeBSD
From: woods () MOST WEIRD COM (Greg A. Woods)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:05:51 -0500
[ On Friday, December 24, 1999 at 20:27:01 (+0000), Dominic Mitchell wrote: ]
Subject: Re: Wmmon under FreeBSD Under modern BSD4.4, the preferred method is using sysctl(3),(8), as opposed to kernfs.
That's not completely true and misses the bigger picture entirely. According to McKusick, Bostic, Karels, and Quarterman the "sysctl()" interface is indeed designed to resolve the problems associated with giving read, and especially write access to all of /dev/kmem (even if through a set-user-id program that restricts what any given user can see or do for any given purpose). However the primary use sysctl(2) is actually put to in 4.4BSD is for accessing information about networking protocols, and for allowing user-level programs to write to kernel data structures (and thus affect run-time configuration changes) after the security level of the kernel has been raised such that writes to /dev/kmem are impossible. If indeed sysctl(2) had been intented as the primary interace to all kernel memory structures however they would not have implemented /kernfs and /procfs. Note that no mention is ever made of ever using sysctl() to implement utilities such as "ps". In later analysis it has become obvious to many people that even though sysctl() provides a hierarchical namespace, it isn't quite as useful as it would be if it were actually a virtual filesystem providing not only a hierarchical namespsace, but all of the other semantics of a filesystem as well. Indeed many other systems have gone on to show that a true virtual filesystem interface to kernel subsystems has many advantages over even a sysctl()-like interface that's restricted to binary programs and perhaps a single, but hopefully generic, user-level interface tool. -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098 VE3TCP <gwoods () acm org> <robohack!woods> Planix, Inc. <woods () planix com>; Secrets of the Weird <woods () weird com>
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