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Re: When some is infected?


From: ToddAndMargo <ToddAndMargo () zoho com>
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:09:20 -0700

On 10/11/2013 04:17 AM, BillV-Lists wrote:
Hi Todd,

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking for. When you walk up to a
"protected" computer... are you talking about a system protected with
Kaspersky?

Yes.  And reasonable steps taken to protected it.

And what do you mean "get past penetration testing"?

A crafty bad guy would not open ports to be detected
by nmap.  They would only go out and make connections.
I was looking for a way to "snoop" on that traffic.


Yes, wireshark would allow you to watch network traffic on a system.
This could indicate signs of an infection or other software you don't
want. If you're looking for something at the enterprise level, you'd
probably want to take a look at something like FireEye or Damballa.

Bill

Thank you!
-T


On 10/10/2013 11:11 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
Hi All,

   Since I sell Kaspersky and have had a lot of customers
on it for years, I have learned that if something gets
by Kaspersky, it is going to be a wild ride getting rid
of it.   (I get rid of them manually and/or run other
vendors stuff at the computer.)

   Now a days, when I walk up to a protected computer,
my thoughts are "maybe".  Did something get past that is not
being detected?

   Now I am thinking that a well crafted bad guy is
going to get past "penetration testing" (PEN).  Although
find anything like this is not the scope of PEN
testing, I am still thinking it would be ethical
to see if any traffic is sneak out that is not suppose
to be.

  So I was thinking that I should turn off all network
traffic producing programs I know of on the POS computer,
and just sit watching its outgoing traffic to make
sure there is no bad guy Command and Control going on.
Does this make sense to you?

   Is Wireshark the proper tool for this?

Your thoughts always appreciated.

-T





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