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Re: Cyber attacks "escalating" on irresponsible Tavis Ormandy disclosure
From: fyne_ugo () yahoo com
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 21:14:20 +0000
Vulnerabilities shouldn't be disclosed publicly. Its only hackers that would benefit from them. There should be bodies that will follow up and check them. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com> Sender: listbounce () securityfocus com Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:31:19 To: Murda<murdamcloud () bigpond com> Reply-To: noloader () gmail com Cc: <security-basics () securityfocus com> Subject: Re: Cyber attacks "escalating" on irresponsible Tavis Ormandy disclosure
Personally, I think that a huge fist of economics may at some point render some of these points moot. Companies may well not be able to afford to care about holes...especially when those companies are reliant on over-leveraged financial systems.
I'd settle for some sort of product liability. Its not hard to imagine the discovery phase of litigation revealing that a vendor sat on a bug for years.... On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Murda <murdamcloud () bigpond com> wrote:
So this seems to boil down to the two arguments(in my mind at least): "The action of disclosing vulnerabilities may increase the risk of a breach but may increase the likelihood of the vendor fixing the hole," Versus: "The inaction of not disclosing the vulnerability may decrease the risk of a breach but does not increase the likelihood of a vendor fixing the hole," Does that sound right? Anyone who has the ability to quantify those arguments in a meaningful manner wins the right to tell me how the stock market will fluctuate in the next six months... Perhaps the thread name could (just as justifiably?) be "Cyber Attacks "escalating" after irresponsible MS not fixing hole". Personally, I think that a huge fist of economics may at some point render some of these points moot. Companies may well not be able to afford to care about holes...especially when those companies are reliant on over-leveraged financial systems. [SNIP]
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