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Re: Judge orders defendant to decrypt PGP-protected laptop - CNET News
From: Craig S Wright <craig.wright () information-defense com>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:04:30 +1100
10 years plus The original charge or even moreBasically the jury can be instructed to treat the destroyed evidence as containing the most highly incriminating evidence possible.
It is never better to destroy evidence Sent from my iPhone On 20/03/2009, at 10:23, Kurt Buff <kurt.buff () gmail com> wrote:
While true, the penalty for doing this may be much less than the penalty that would be imposed if the data is sufficiently embarrassing. Kurt On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 14:01, Craig S Wright <craig.wright () information-defense com> wrote:The intentional destruction of evidence is a crime. US law varies by state, but as an example, Australian federal law andVictorian state law would make this a criminal act that would itself be punished and also result in an instruction for the jury to treat the now unaccessable evidence as holding definstive proof of what you are beingchecked for in the first place. Your strategy makes you a criminal. It does not gain any benifit. Regards, Dr. Craig S Wright LLM. GSE-Malware... On 18/03/2009, at 20:04, Aarón Mizrachi <unmanarc () gmail com> wrote:On Sábado 07 Marzo 2009 18:14:51 Shailesh Rangari escribió:Steve,I agree that their is a real possibility that a said user may forgetthe password owing to numerous reasons,But I am not aware of any technique that can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the user has really forgotten his password or is pretendingit to avoid a sentence.Seems like the case is bound to set a precedent in the interpretation of this law. Any which ways it would be worthwhile to observe whetherthe US courts follow a similar course of action as their UK counterparts.two factor authentication with micro-sd memory card that you preserve allthetime with you, and can be eated when you feel angry, or can be incineratedif you smoke it on a cigar, or simply drop it. this sd memory card will contain bootstrap and encrypted key for two-factor cypher. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Cigar_tube_and_cutter.jpg (Over 200 celsius degrees!!!) Then, the hardrive will only contain: RANDOM DATA.This is plausible?, this could be insulting for the judge, but, you must allegate that before the raid, you do an "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/ sda1"for amantainance pourporse from a live cd... (i really didit before sell myharddrive to prevent credit card and other private info leakeage). Look at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jan/08/hard-drive-security-whichThis is plausible. You didn't consider your hard-drive as evidence beforethe judge starts, because you never didit anything barely legal.--- ---------------------------------------------------------------------This list is sponsored by: InfoSec InstituteFind the source of cybercrime! Almost every crime today involves a computer or mobile device. Learn how to become a Computer Forensics Examiner in InfoSec Institute's hands-on Computer Forensics Course. Up to three industry recognized certs available, online computer forensics training available.http://www.infosecinstitute.com/courses/computer_forensics_training.html--- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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- Re: Judge orders defendant to decrypt PGP-protected laptop - CNET News Kurt Buff (Mar 05)
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