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Re: Impact of Global recession on Security !
From: "ॐ aditya mukadam ॐ" <aditya.mukadam () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:46:10 +0530
Jon , Thanks a lot for providing a detailed insight to current situations. I absolutely agree with you that this is irrational and its a plain simple panic. The companies who have been stopping the security orders, cutting down and holding funds/projects should really be careful during this period and pray that there is no security breach which will impact them even further ! The only way I think this psychology would change is if there is a major attack, virus break, new vulnerabilities exploited which will further impact company's revenue,image etc during this crisis period.I hope that such things don't happen ! If it happens, companies would then need to step back and invest in security,resume security programs.In that case they spend even more to get their systems/business back on line to normalcy !!! The rate at which things are happening can hamper job market and catalyst layoffs.If this happens , then it would drive the ethical hacker(white/gray hat) to change his role/motives. This is more scary and dangerous.Impact of recession will not impact the bad guys , it will rather enhance their careers, if the companies stop investing in security programs .This would lead to identity thefts,frauds, exploits and things which can only make the situation more ugly. It is advisable that the companies would need to do risk analysis to understand the risks they are accepting . The only option we have is to wait and watch till the panic bubble bursts. Thanks, Aditya Govind Mukadam On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Jon Kibler <Jon.Kibler () aset com> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ? aditya mukadam ? wrote:Hello !!! There has been lot of news about the Global recession impacting/threatening IT budgets. Lot of articles have been written on it with various views. Since the audience of this list compromises of IT/Security people from all over the world and with different viewpoints, it will be very interesting to understand the opinion.Hi, Well, as a security consultant, I can already see a BIG impact. The "interesting" part being how fast it has happened. Three weeks ago, everything was fine. Starting two weeks ago, everything started to fall apart VERY rapidly. In the downturn of 1983-1984, it took over 6 months to get to the point that things slowed down as much as they did in just one week, two weeks ago. After 9/11, it took over 18 months to reach the point that we have reached in less than two weeks. Within the past two weeks, I have had two clients issue immediate stop work orders. I had a third client give 6 weeks notice that everything needs to be brought to a clean stopping point from which work can be resumed once the economy picks back up. I have had a pen testing class in early 2009 cancel because over 3/4ths the students withdrew in the past two weeks. I had still another client decide not to investigate a breach, opting to instead just rebuild from scratch the hacked system and hope it does not get hit again -- instead of doing the incident response investigation that their policy required. On the new business side, I was in talks with a major international retailer about some long term pen testing work. That screeched to a halt when upper management declared a week and a half ago 'no new spending until we see how Christmas sales end up.' I had another client that we were in final contract negotiations with, and with who we had agreed upon a price, come back and say that the contract was off unless we could do the same work for 1/2 the price. I had potential client that was in need of some PCI compliance work decide to put off the work -- and even risk their ability to take credit cards on-line -- until the economy stabilized. Others, who we were in various stages of talks with, have simply stopped returning phone calls, or are saying that they no longer have the need that they had two weeks ago. So, yes, the global downturn has had a VERY sharp impact on security. Companies are simply not spending. Many, even those with good credit, have had their credit lines reduced or eliminated, so they have virtually eliminated all non-emergency spending. (This downturn is being driven more by lack of credit than any other factor in my opinion.) I have been in this business for over 35 years. I have seen NOTHING like the past two weeks. It just leaves my head spinning, it has happened so fast. Clearly, businesses are panicking and not thinking rationally about either the short or long term implications of their decisions. Something needs to happen to change the psychology of the markets and to loosen up credit. The situation we find ourselves in today is simply irrational -- no well thought out plans, just plain, simple panic. I can only hope that things pick up as fast as they crashed. If not, we have MUCH bigger problems to worry about than IT security. Jon K. - -- Jon R. Kibler Chief Technical Officer Advanced Systems Engineering Technology, Inc. Charleston, SC USA o: 843-849-8214 c: 843-224-2494 s: 843-564-4224 http://www.linkedin.com/in/jonrkibler My PGP Fingerprint is: BAA2 1F2C 5543 5D25 4636 A392 515C 5045 CF39 4253 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjyB88ACgkQUVxQRc85QlNTUQCfX10IwfrlR23Nq1UW2xGLcB1S u1cAn3A8YNMaDxQUWJu8lLWybLvwj5Hs =EVHF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ================================================== Filtered by: TRUSTEM.COM's Email Filtering Service http://www.trustem.com/ No Spam. No Viruses. Just Good Clean Email.
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- Impact of Global recession on Security ! ॐ aditya mukadam ॐ (Oct 07)
- Re: Impact of Global recession on Security ! Joe (Oct 09)
- Re: Impact of Global recession on Security ! Jon Kibler (Oct 14)
- Re: Impact of Global recession on Security ! ॐ aditya mukadam ॐ (Oct 14)
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