RE: is it possible to find geographical place of email sender from email headers

["Murda Mcloud" <murdamcloud () bigpond com>]

> > they can assist you in getting a better idea of an exact  
> location, maybe even a home address if they are nice.

I'm intrigued at this. What did you do, to get them to be nice enough to get
the kid's name? Is this a euphemism for social engineering?

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
> > On Behalf Of Shreyas Zare
> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:24 AM
> > To: tommy; security-basics () securityfocus com
> > Subject: Re: is it possible to find geographical place of email sender
> > from email headers
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > As I said earlier,since Gmail does not include IP of the sender in the
> > headers, you cannot find it. This is Gmails policy not to include IP.
> > If you want to verify, just mail from Gmail to some other account and
> > check for headers with your IP. You can also try to find my IP address
> > in this mail's header and since I am using Google Apps service you
> > wont find it. Only you have is Message-ID that you can use to get
> > details from Google(if they want to tell you).
> >
> > Secondly, most ISPs (depends upon the country they are in) wont reveal
> > their customers IP details for privacy reasons without any court
> > order/warrant for investigation and if they disclose, the customer can
> > sue them.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > On 3/2/08, tommy <thedarksniper () gmail com> wrote:
> > > hi
> > >  yes it is possable, but you need a more detailed header that has a
> > >  scource ip address, then you would gearch google for a whois database
> > >  and search for the ip in the whois, it will tell you where the isp is
> > >  located, they can assist you in getting a better idea of an exact
> > >  location, maybe even a home address if they are nice.
> > >  i had to do this yesterday to a kid who thought he could scare me, i
> > >  found out that he is in my vocational school IT class and i know
> > exactly
> > >  who it is.
> > >
> > >  good luck
> > >  -tommy
> > >  "you do not learn to hack, you hack to learn"
> > >
> > >  Shreyas Zare wrote:
> > >  > Hi,
> > >  >
> > >  > Since the sender sent the mail using Gmail service, you cant find
> > out
> > >  > his IP address. So you cant find out his location. The only way to
> > do
> > >  > is to contact Google and get details, which is very difficult.
> > >  >
> > >  > Regards,
> > >  >
> > >  > On 3/1/08, aliasghar.toraby () gmail com <aliasghar.toraby () gmail com>
> > wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  >> hi friends. is it possible to find geographical place of email
> > sender
> > >  >>  from email headers? if it is possible please guide me. following
> > lines
> > >  >>  are the headers of email that some body sent to me. and i want to
> > know
> > >  >>  who is it? and this email sent to me is related to which country!
> > >  >>
> > *********************************************************************
> > >  >>  From: tavallode.andeishe225 () gmail com
> > >  >>  Date: 11:25 AM
> > >  >>  X-Account-Key: account2
> > >  >>  X-UIDL: GmailId11869563bc21cc9d
> > >  >>  X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
> > >  >>  X-Mozilla-Status2: 10000000
> > >  >>  Dekiverd-To: aliasghar.toraby () gmail com
> > >  >>  Received: by 10.70.60.19 with SMTP id i19cs200180wxa;        Fri,
> > 29 Feb
> > >  >>  2008 23:55:04 -0800 (PST)
> > >  >>  Received: by 10.100.92.9 with SMTP id
> > >  >>  p9mr13404088anb.12.1204358101557;        Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:55:01
> > -0800
> > >  >>  (PST)
> > >  >>  Received: by 10.100.120.12 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:55:01 -
> > 0800 (PST)
> > >  >>  Message-ID:
> > <a42711b0802292355o5baf9a37k34dbe8560560e1c0 () mail gmail com>
> > >  >>  MIME-Version: 1.0
> > >  >>  Control-Tyoe: multipart/mixed;
> > >  >>   boundary="----=_Part_2228_7917228.1204358101511"
> > >  >>
> > *********************************************************************
> > >  >>  thanks for any help
> > >  >>
> > >  >>
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> >
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