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RE: CISSP Question
From: "Craig Wright" <Craig.Wright () bdo com au>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 13:34:16 +1000
Simmons, A customary assessment deployed to appraise if an employment is, in fact, a "profession" is the "advocacy test". Basically: If a paid job necessitates that one recurrently performs as an advocate for a different person, group, or organisation who require the precise information necessary for such advocacy, then that employment fulfils the analysis and is reasoned a "profession".
From this, the significance of explicit "codes of ethics" and (commonly)
licensure ensues. Traditionally there were only a limited number of professions, Medicine, the Clergy, and Academe. This has expanded over the years. Members of the Secret Service are considered Intelligence Professionals. They in the nature of their work provide advocacy. The role of a security guard is not one which entails the provisioning of advocacy. A military officer is considered a professional, an enlisted person or NCO is not. As for Government, civil servants may or may not be professionals based on what they do. Diplomatic staff, accountants, lawyers etc are all professionals. A clerk is not. The use is oft misconstrued. The terminology "a professional athlete" for instance refers to a sports person who preforms for money. This is often confused to construe that the person is a professional. The terms are not the same and the taxonomy differs. Just as one works for money, one is not is necessity a professional. The athlete who acts as a "professional" coach following their sporting career has become a professional. As for Security guards, though they have organisations such as Security Police and Fireman's Professional Association, this is a Union and not a professional body. They are not the same. A former security guard who has moved into a management and consulting role and who designs (for instance) security solutions and procedures would be entering into the sphere of being a professional, though they are no longer a security guard at this point. As for carpenters, cooks and auto mechanics, they act in a trade. However a trained and qualified chef (unlike a cook) is classified as a professional. None of this says anything as to the skill or ability of the person or the level of training in the job. Many trades have high levels of training, but still fail to qualify as a profession. Basically, any job which is a trade can not by definition be considered a profession - the terms are mutually exclusive. Regards, Craig Craig Wright Manager of Information Systems Direct +61 2 9286 5497 Craig.Wright () bdo com au +61 417 683 914 BDO Kendalls (NSW) Level 19, 2 Market Street Sydney NSW 2000 GPO BOX 2551 Sydney NSW 2001 Fax +61 2 9993 9497 www.bdo.com.au Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation in respect of matters arising within those States and Territories of Australia where such legislation exists. The information in this email and any attachments is confidential. If you are not the named addressee you must not read, print, copy, distribute, or use in any way this transmission or any information it contains. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by return email, destroy all copies and delete it from your system. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and not necessarily endorsed by BDO Kendalls. You may not rely on this message as advice unless subsequently confirmed by fax or letter signed by a Partner or Director of BDO Kendalls. It is your responsibility to scan this communication and any files attached for computer viruses and other defects. BDO Kendalls does not accept liability for any loss or damage however caused which may result from this communication or any files attached. A full version of the BDO Kendalls disclaimer, and our Privacy statement, can be found on the BDO Kendalls website at http://www.bdo.com.au or by emailing administrator () bdo com au. BDO Kendalls is a national association of separate partnerships and entities.
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- RE: CISSP Question Lee McDonald (May 04)
- RE: CISSP Question Simmons, James (May 04)
- RE: CISSP Question Lee McDonald (May 04)
- RE: CISSP Question Lee McDonald (May 04)
- RE: CISSP Question krymson (May 02)
- RE: CISSP Question Craig Wright (May 02)
- RE: CISSP Question Simmons, James (May 02)
- RE: CISSP Question David Harley (May 03)
- RE: CISSP Question Simmons, James (May 02)
- RE: CISSP Question Craig Wright (May 02)
- RE: CISSP Question Craig Wright (May 03)
- RE: CISSP Question Simmons, James (May 03)
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- RE: CISSP Question Elizabeth Tolson (May 03)
- RE: CISSP Question Craig Wright (May 03)
- RE: CISSP Question David Harley (May 04)
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