RE: Value of certifications

["Craig Wright" <Craig.Wright () bdo com au>]

If it has lapsed it is not current and than this is a false
representation.

If you state that you had a CCNA but it lapsed on the resume - this is
ok.

However, by listing it when it is expired and not stating that it is
expired, you are making a fraudulent misrepresentation to the
prospective employer. This is a misdemeanour crime so I would not
recommend it. 

Craig



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-----Original Message-----

From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Brian Bemis
Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 5:40 AM
To: lalit.gupta () bt com; iccnt () yahoo ca; bert.knabe () lubbockonline com
Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Value of certifications

I have a question that kind of follows a long the lines of this one...

If you have a certification that lapses, can you still note it on your
resume? I got my CCNA certification 3 1/2 years ago, but do to recent
time
constraints, I wasn't able to go take the recertification exam. Can I
still
list that on my resume, maybe with the year it expired, or is that not
cool?
Just wondering what others thought about that...



> -----Original Message-----
> From: listbounce () securityfocus com
[mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
> On Behalf Of lalit.gupta () bt com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:18 AM
> To: iccnt () yahoo ca; bert.knabe () lubbockonline com
> Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
> Subject: RE: Value of certifications
>
> Certifications get you through Biodata scanners in HR :)
>
> Once you are through them, then only you are called for interviews.
>
> So, certs are important for career advancement.
>
> On another front, certs give confidence to your employer and client
> about your capabilities.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Lalit Gupta
> CIISA, CISSP, CCNA, MCP, CCE, CNE
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: listbounce () securityfocus com
[mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
> On Behalf Of Doug Schlachta
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:44 AM
> To: bert.knabe () lubbockonline com
> Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
> Subject: Re: Value of certifications
>
> Bert,
>
> I suggest that if you are going to look at the Security+ cert you
> looking into the SSCP by ISC2 instead.
> I have not seen much value given to Sec+ cert but I have seen value
> given to the SSCP.
> It also gives you a good step towards obtaining your CISSP eventually.
>
> Regards
> Douglas Schlachta
> CISSP, SSCP, MCSE;Security, MCSE, CCNA, CFOT
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Bert Knabe <bert.knabe () lubbockonline com>
> To: security-basics () securityfocus com
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 1:18:11 AM
> Subject: Value of certifications
>
>
> My employer offers classes for 2 security certifications, CompTIA
> Security+ and Certified Information Systems Security Professional. I
> know that the CISSP certification is aimed more at management, and is
> worthwhile, but I'm not management (yet), so I'm looking at the
> Security+, but I don't know if it's worth the time. Does anyone know
> how much value it has? I've been able to follow the discussions I've
> seen here, but I wouldn't call myself a security expert by any means.
>
> Thanks,
> Bert Knabe