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Re: UTM


From: "kevin fielder" <kevin.fielder () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:45:31 +0100

Hi All

I'd agree that in smaller environments these devices can be useful,
especially when you consider the lower management overhead required
which will likely make the life of the 1 or 2 IT guys easier.

Also they may actually end up being more secure as the guys managing
them may have time to become profficient configuring one device via one
management interfaces rather than multiple devices.

My main concern with devices of this type is other than the fact that
they are unlikely to be best of breed in all areas, there is always the
possibility that a vulnerability in one component or successful attack
against one component could lead to circumventing the entire device.
For example a vuln in an AV component could lead to an virus / worm that
could bring the firewall down - possibly unlikely, I haven't checked the
stats / tests that have been performed against these devices, but
certainly something to be aware of.

For larger environments with skilled teams I would still recommend going
for separate devices chosen to meet your companies needs (e.g. balancing
the cost / ease of use / performance equation).

Cheers

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Craig Wright
Sent: 19 April 2007 00:21
To: mickael kael; Tornado
Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: UTM

I agree. Small networks with restricted funds are the best target for
this device.

I still have an issue putting all my eggs in one basket so to speak
though.

The primary issue that I see with UTM's in small organisations is that
they are deemed set and forget. This may be wrong and I understand this,
but the devices suffer from the admonishments of the vendor sales team.

I have heard them sold as one stop set and forget devices. Though most
on the list are likely to have issues with this type of sales strategy,
most consumers of these devices are not people on this list.

Regards,
Craig



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-----Original Message-----

From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of mickael kael
Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2007 3:07 AM
To: Tornado
Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: UTM

Hi,

I have deployed some UTM (i will not give you the name). I met lot of
of bug and bad implementation, this result in lot of firmware update
(update = network outage + technician intervention cost).

UTM is maybe a good way for small office but you must take care about
maintenance time.

Appliance which do just one thing (Cisco pix, ...) are generally more
stable and there is no need to update it every 4 month.

Best regards,

Mk,

On 4/18/07, Tornado <itsec_guy () bluebottle com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> What are your views about UTMs (Unified Threat Management Sytems)?
> We are looking at Sonicwall  Pro 2040 and Pro 3060 for our company.
Has
> anyone had experience with UTMs ? Any other alternatives to Sonicwall?
>
> You help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
>
>



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