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RE: death of the security community
From: "Craig Wright" <cwright () bdosyd com au>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 08:21:41 +1100
Hello, I agree with "The fewer people who are learning about computer security the bigger the threat becomes". I would have to add that I do not agree that there was ever a large or significant proportion of people in the field however. I would also disagree with the analogy of the flow of information drying up to just a few drops. There are large deposits of information, papers educational material etc available. MIT has open learning and offer course curricula for free. The difference is that there is a greater requirement for knowledge. One who could just get into the industry with no training or experience but to whom the "wizardry" or being a home Linux user propelled forward would have a hope a decade ago. Now that person is just another wantabee. Not that things are perfect yet. The issue is the lack of knowledge generally. Finding basic mathematical skills is becoming more difficult (Bayesian Networks for Risk - there are applications). Grammatical skills (writing a report). The technical skills are becoming easier to find. Unfortunately they are of less use to an organisation unless they are supported by other skills. Regards, Craig -----Original Message----- From: John Vill [mailto:kalookalaa () hotmail com] Sent: 21 March 2006 7:56 To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: death of the security community Its like video games... PC games used to rule and it was all good. Now people realize how much money can be made in that industry so theres just one crappy fps after another because consoles have taken over. Hmmm, maybe that was a little bit of a stretch but hopefully you get what I mean. I think the community is already dead. Its not the way it used to be and it won't be like that again anytime soon. It seems like the free flow of knowledge has been reduced to a few drops here and there. The fewer people who are learning about computer security the bigger the threat becomes.
I seem not to understand what is happening to the security community..The profit and earning a living of the expert in the field is going to lead to the death of the security community.Now full disclosure movement is getting to be commercial disclosure, whereby each security community wants to expliot you to pay them to even get the latest vulnerability report and expliot,even when you need it to penetrate your server before the bad guy does.Which doesnt aid the people of the basics but even helps the scriptkiddie community(the greatest fear we face)I hope attention is given to these...and d fathers of d security comm' should have a re think, cos the continuity of the pursue of profit would bring the security of the internet wide
as an open gate.
odabo
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- RE: death of the security community John Vill (Mar 20)
- RE: death of the security community Keith Morgan (Mar 21)
- Re: death of the security community Miguel Dilaj (Mar 20)
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- RE: death of the security community Craig Wright (Mar 20)
- RE: death of the security community Craig Wright (Mar 21)
- RE: death of the security community Bob Radvanovsky (Mar 21)
- RE: death of the security community Craig Wright (Mar 21)
- RE: death of the security community Craig Wright (Mar 21)
- Re: death of the security community Hat Trick (Mar 22)
- RE: death of the security community Craig Wright (Mar 24)
- RE: death of the security community Craddock, Larry (Mar 27)
- RE: death of the security community Craig Wright (Mar 28)
- RE: death of the security community John Vill (Mar 20)