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what is spyware Was: alexa - google toolbar behaviour
From: Alexander Klimov <alserkli () inbox ru>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:08:56 +0300 (IDT)
Hi. On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Mehmet Buyukozer wrote:
It might not be in spyware category but what makes a software spyware? It will send information to you and your activities on the net right? So what makes google toolbar different in this perspective?
Hmm, I don't like this definition because by this definition every net-related program is spyware: your browser obviously sends information away, your mail client, ICQ, well, even ssh usully sends information (to the DNS server) about the host you are trying to connect to. I guess that something is a spyware if: 1) its main goal is to collect imformation; 2) during the installation you was not clearly notified about this. Of course, the google toolbar was made to collect information, but it was not a fine print in some document -- IIRC (although, I have not seen the google toolbar for quite many years) the installation procedure was absolutely clear that the purpose of the software is to collect information in order to calculate pageranks and there was also an option to turn this off. There are a lot of people (most of them, I guess) who simply don't mind that somebody will know that user number 71523623 today visited some particular website and when goes to some other website -- pageranks are for them.
As I sent in my previous mail, it is sending all your url's to google including your phpmyadmin and control panel addresses!
Frankly, I doubt that any recent web application uses your password as a part of url (instead of a POST parameter, a cookie, etc.), so the only thing google get is that you use phpmyadmin or control panel... BTW: If you want to know what information is leaked from your computer you should block all outgoing connections, set proxy (e.g., privoxy) and review its logs. -- Regards, ASK
Current thread:
- alexa - google toolbar behaviour Mehmet Buyukozer (Jul 13)
- Re: alexa - google toolbar behaviour Times Enemy (Jul 18)
- RE: alexa - google toolbar behaviour Mehmet Buyukozer (Jul 18)
- what is spyware Was: alexa - google toolbar behaviour Alexander Klimov (Jul 20)
- [!! SPAM] what is spyware Was: alexa - google toolbar behaviour Alexander Klimov (Jul 29)
- RE: alexa - google toolbar behaviour Burton Strauss (Jul 20)
- RE: alexa - google toolbar behaviour Mehmet Buyukozer (Jul 18)
- Re: alexa - google toolbar behaviour Aaron (Jul 20)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: alexa - google toolbar behaviour Times Enemy (Jul 20)
- Re: alexa - google toolbar behaviour Times Enemy (Jul 18)