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Re: Windows 98 box is 'owned'
From: GuidoZ <uberguidoz () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 23:09:41 -0700
I agree Glen. but only to a point. Many offer features of a hardware firewall, such as SPI. However, in my book, it's not a true hardware firewall unless it offers a multitude of common features generally associated with true hardware firewalls. (SPI, Content filtering, VPN support, and PKI to name a few.) While it's quite true that some Netgear/LinkSys,D-link routers may offer firewall features (I'm not aware of any one that offers more then SPI), they are too often confused with real hardware firewalls. (Google: SonicWall and AlphaShield for a start) I wanted to make sure others didn't improperly assume, like so many have, that NAT constitutes a firewall. Thanks for you comments. -- Peace. ~G On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:03:30 -0400, Glenn Sieb <ges () wingfoot org> wrote:
GuidoZ said the following on 10/1/2004 1:15 AM:While these are all good points, I'd like to make a clarification on one thing.1) Complete re-install of the OS with the addition of both a software firewall (ZoneAlarm) and a Hardware Firewall (Linksys, Dlink, etc).Linksys, Dlink, etc are routers, not firewalls. While they function similar to a hardware firewall (providing NAT and blocking the systems behind them from direct access), they are NOT a substitute for a real hardware firewall (SonicWall, AlphaShield, etc) when required. Although, I believe a router would be plenty for your mother. =) People frequently toss around the term "hardware firewall" (including vendors), applying it to ANY device that provides NAT translation. In my eyes, it takes a lot more then NAT to make a firewall. Additional protection such as SPI, Content filtering, VPN, PKI, etc make up a true hardware firewall.Netgear's are firewalls. SPI, NAT, etc. DLink is also a firewall. I had a DI703 which did SPI. There *are* just routers that do nothing but NAT--but a lot of these boxes *do* offer Firewalls as well. Best, Glenn -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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- Re: Windows 98 box is 'owned' GuidoZ (Sep 30)
- Re: Windows 98 box is 'owned' Nazeeh ElDirghami (Sep 30)
- RE: Windows 98 box is 'owned' OTTO, DOUGLAS P. (Sep 30)
- RE: Windows 98 box is 'owned' Randy Williams (Sep 30)
- Re: Windows 98 box is 'owned' GuidoZ (Oct 04)
- RE: Windows 98 box is 'owned' Randy Williams (Oct 04)
- Re: Windows 98 box is 'owned' GuidoZ (Oct 04)
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