RE: Legal? Road Runner proactive scanning.[Scanned]

["David Gillett" <gillettdavid () fhda edu>]

  The last time I was port-scanned by an ISP,

(a) it was one I was no longer using,

(b) it was from a pod of machines named after famous pirates and
    gangsters, and

(c) when contacted, they claimed they had only meant to check their
    own internal systems, not those of (ex) customers.

Dave Gillett


> -----Original Message-----
> From: James P. Saveker [mailto:james () wetgoat net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:08 PM
> To: security-basics () securityfocus com
> Subject: FW: Legal? Road Runner proactive scanning.[Scanned]
>
>
> You consider a port scan to be an attack?
>
> Why is a port scan an attack?  Do other people on this list 
> agree with this?
>
> Perhaps I am naive,
>
> James Saveker
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan S. Sampsel [mailto:bsampsel () libertyactivist org] 
> Sent: 10 March 2004 23:59
> To: security-basics () securityfocus com
> Subject: Re: Legal? Road Runner proactive scanning.[Scanned]
>
> I've had entries from that system performing port scans...not 
> simply SMTP
> relay checking.
>
> I think it's time to block 'em at the firewall, as I consider this
> tantamount to an attack myself.
>
> IMO,
>
> bryan
>
>
>
> Greg said:
> > We saw the same thing about a year ago and contacted them. They 
> > basically read to us verbatim what you have below. We now 
> simply block 
> > that particular IP at the firewall. They haven't bothered us since.
> >
> > --- jbod <for_the_republic () yahoo com> wrote:
> > > Proactive scanning.  If everyone did this how would you ever sort 
> > > through your logs?  Your IDS would go nuts constantly.
> > >
> > > Excerpt:  "If your server connects to ours, we reserve the 
> absolute 
> > > right to perform SMTP relay and open proxy server tests upon the 
> > > connecting IP address, to ensure that the machine at that 
> IP address 
> > > cannot be abused for malicious purposes."
> > >
> > >
> > > http://securityscan.sec.rr.com/probing.htm
> > > http://24.30.199.228/probing.htm
> >
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