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Re: Administrator Rights?
From: Caeser Augustus <caeser.augustus () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 17:33:03 +0530
Hi Gerald, Is that CSDVersion key that you were talking about? Thanks On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:26:52 -0800, geraldf () westernsaw com <geraldf () westernsaw com> wrote:
Morning,all: I don't believe this is entirely correct. The Admin credentials do need to be present and verified, but the "run as" secondary logon is sufficient. Someone with Admin credentials does not have to be the primary logon for the updates to fire and install. I am not dead sure what you are implying with the "Windows update will not install ANY update if the Admin is not logged on." statement. I have been using the "runas" method in our company for over three years, and other than an occasional hickup where Admin or otherwise the update service just stops functioning, every pc just updates like a clock once a day no matter who is logged on to the pc. The odd update failure seems to involve a reg entry that gives a corrupt version that I manually change, and off it goes again. Servers, of course, are a different story. To set those up with "auto update" without any sandboxing should only be done if your resume is updated and your next prospective employer is in sight. Good luck, and kudos to MSFT on the Update service. I don't see anyone else doing anything even remotely close to this level of customer service. The driver updates included in this service are a real blessing. Any printer vendor, for example, that comes onsite is immediately quizzed on whether they participate in the MSFT update service. If not, adios. I consider a vendor who doesn't participate actively in this driver update service to be jacking up the TCO (total cost of ownership) to my company to save themselves some cash. Canon is the worst at this...zero participation, zero email notification of new drivers. They just don't seem to get it. Gerald Investment AdviceIf you bought $1000 worth of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now be worth $49. If you bought $1000 worth of Budweiser (the beer, not the stock) one year ago, drank all the beer, and traded in the cans for the nickel deposit,you would have $79. My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.... And save your cans!-----Original Message----- From: Caeser Augustus [mailto:caeser.augustus () gmail com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:07 PM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Re: Administrator Rights? Hi, Windows update will not install ANY update if the Admin is not logged on. If you are running XP, then I have noticed that going through with the pre SP1 updates is a pain nowadays. They seem to download OK but fail to install. Manually installing the updates may be an option, but I also wonder if the XP systems are using the new V5 site or the older V4 one. On a seperate note, for the updates to work properly with the V5, an update is required. If WIndows update does not install it automatically then, you may install it seperately from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b93356b1-ba43-480f- 983d-eb19368f9047&displaylang=en And you may also have a look at http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/WinXP/Q_21220580.html Hope this helps: On 1 Dec 2004 03:31:58 -0000, dmorrow5 () satx rr com <dmorrow5 () satx rr com> wrote:I'd like to think I'm somewhat computer savvy, but this one escapesme...running XP, trying to run Windows Update. All but one or two updates will fail. I've done some research that suggested a necessary service may not have started, but this is not the case. When looking at the user account, they are designated as Administrator. However, Windows Update says it won't install the updates unless it's accomplished by an administrator. Any suggestions?
Current thread:
- Administrator Rights? dmorrow5 (Dec 01)
- Re: Administrator Rights? Caeser Augustus (Dec 02)
- Re: Administrator Rights? Dana Morrow (Dec 06)
- Re: Administrator Rights? Marco Peccianti (Dec 02)
- Re: Administrator Rights? Brad Germany (Dec 02)
- Re: Administrator Rights? Times Enemy (Dec 02)
- Re: Administrator Rights? Jon Lawhead (Dec 02)
- Re: Administrator Rights? Dana Morrow (Dec 06)
- Re: Administrator Rights? Caeser Augustus (Dec 07)
- Re: Administrator Rights? Dana Morrow (Dec 06)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Administrator Rights? geraldf (Dec 03)
- Re: Administrator Rights? Caeser Augustus (Dec 06)
- Re: Administrator Rights? Dana Morrow (Dec 07)
- Re: Administrator Rights? Caeser Augustus (Dec 02)