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Re: AD in the DMZ . . . OK?


From: "Peter Van Eeckhoutte" <peter.ve () telenet be>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:15:33 +0200

But you could create a second (non-public) DMZ as well; and host your DC in
that separate zone
Keep in mind that in certain cases, you will need to allow traffic from your
DMZ to 'internal' networks- (which could be another non-public DMZ) : Think
about mailservers : how in earth are you going to send and retrieve emails
if they are not allowed to access your internal mailserver ?
Think about webservers using back-end databases....   and so on

I think the right approach is to deny all; but sometimes you need to be a
bit pragmatic (and allow certain things; in a controlled environment)
The trick is to find the right balance between security and functionality...

Imho, I would seriously consider using a separate internal DMZ... it would
still work; and does not require you to allow access to your internal
network





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers" <bugtraq () planetcobalt net>
To: <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: AD in the DMZ . . . OK?


On 2004-07-30 Dieter Sarrazyn wrote:
Wouldn't using LDAP be a solution here? Every AD system is in fact
also an ldap server.

If the only thing needed is authentication with userid/password, then
this is fairly simple to do. A special group could be created
containing all users that are allowed to use this type of
authentication. Using a "ldap-read" user which has only read access to
this group is pretty secure I guess.

If I'm reading you correctly that would still require access from the
DMZ to the DC, thus still violating the DMZ. No host in the DMZ should
ever be able to access any service inside the internal network.

Regards
Ansgar Wiechers
-- 
"Those who would give up liberty for a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety, and will lose both."
--Benjamin Franklin

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