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Re: Education and Security
From: Cl Clay <cclay2 () csc com>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:37:51 -0400
Someone made a comment about getting a degree in mathematics. My hats off to you. If I had to do it all over again that is what I would have done. With a degree in mathematics yet set your own limits. Some people change careers every five years. You can get into programming, security , cryptography (oh boy!) and even business. Remember the bottom line of any big business is profit. Also, much of what is taught in the classroom can be obtain through self- study, certifications, and good old hands-on. Generally, employers will automatically assume you are competent enough to handle any task is you have a background in mathematics. Everything you do involves some level of mathematics. You can't go wrong with a degree in mathematics. The only disclaimer I have is if you don't like math then focus on what you particularly enjoy and perform the necessary research to accomplish your goal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy Blair <blai0015 To: "Gaydosh, Adam" <GaydoshA () ctcgsc org>, security-basics () securityfocus com @umn.edu> cc: Daryl <dwalleck () satx rr com> Subject: Re: Education and Security 04/07/2004 03:34 PM My university does not offer the IA major, but I am emphasizing in computer security. I also got a management minor from the business department here (University of Minnesota) which allowed me to take courses that taught business concepts as well as technical concepts. The electives I took for the management minor were MIS courses which most business schools will offer. They had a course in security and another in e-commerce which helped tie the two fields together. My suggestion would be to focus on what you want to do with your security degree. If you want to work in a corporate or consulting environment with businesses, the Infrastructure Assurance might be a better focus. If you would rather do secure programming, academic or lab research on security, the CS degree would be the way to go. Because of the different core courses you'll need, double-majoring might be long and expensive. I would pick one as a focus and try to round out the other with electives or a minor. Good luck! Andy On 7 Apr 2004, Gaydosh, Adam wrote:
dual-major! You will ultimately want a balance of the skills offered by
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both degrees for your professional career..but if you find that's not = feasible, then I suggest you go for the BA, and take a few CS electives = to round out your technical background. It is increasingly important = that the techies can use their skills to enable business, not just = support it. Also, I find that most undergradutate CS programs teach you
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core concepts, but often not much of the actual technologies you will be
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working with out of school...so that you will have to continue your = technical education [even if only self-study] beyond undergraduate = courses regardless of which major you choose...HTH! -adam-----Original Message----- From: Daryl [mailto:dwalleck () satx rr com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:38 AM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Education and Security I believe questions similar to this have been asked before but my version is a bit different. I'm currently a computer science major (not too far along) who's always been interested in the security field. I chose CS for a major since it was the closest thing. Recently=20 my college began to offer a full BA in Infrastructure Assurance, their=20 version of a security degree. My only worry is that the degree plan is rooted in the school of Business and therefore requires a large core of business classes and not as much technical work (a copy of the requirements can be found here http://business.utsa.edu/undergraduate/degrees/is/BBA_IA.pdf). At this point I think I've thought the issue to death in my head and I could really use some outside input. Any thoughts? Daryl Walleck --------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Ethical Hacking at the InfoSec Institute. Mention this ad and=20 get $545 off=20 any course! All of our class sizes are guaranteed to be 10=20 students or less=20 to facilitate one-on-one interaction with one of our expert=20 instructors.=20 Attend a course taught by an expert instructor with years of=20 in-the-field=20 pen testing experience in our state of the art hacking lab.=20 Master the skills=20 of an Ethical Hacker to better assess the security of your=20 organization.=20 Visit us at:=20 http://www.infosecinstitute.com/courses/ethical_hacking_training.html --------------------------------------------------------------- -------------
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Current thread:
- Education and Security Daryl (Apr 06)
- RE: Education and Security JTH (Apr 07)
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- Re: Education and Security Phillip McCollum (Apr 07)
- RE: Education and Security Gaydosh, Adam (Apr 07)
- Re: Education and Security Andy Blair (Apr 07)
- RE: Education and Security eeefm (Apr 14)
- Re: Education and Security Cl Clay (Apr 08)
- RE: Education and Security Billy Dodson (Apr 08)