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RE: ICMP (Ping)
From: Tim Greer <chatmaster () charter net>
Date: 05 Sep 2003 10:53:09 -0700
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 17:20, Gerard Marshall Vignes wrote:
The applicable tenet from encryption is that the encryption method is known, while the key is kept secret. This is taken to an extreme today, where many common encryption methods are published openly. This is why attackers usually try to get the keys. These encryption methods are both efficient and effective. If you read about the Allies cracking of Ultra (Shark, Enigma) during WWII, you can see the relevance of this tenet. The German use of rotors and plugs seemed to make it an invincible encryption engine. But the Bletchley staff understood the basic mechanism and devised a way to Separate the effects of the rotors from the effects of the plugs. As it turned out, the plugs contributed very little to the security of Ultra. The Germans would have done better by using more rotors (5-10) and left the plugs out completely. The result would have been a somewhat larger but simpler machine that was easier to use but far more difficult to crack. Please feel free to flame me for butting in w/o being invited :-)
If it helps at all, I'm utterly confused by your response and the relevancy. :-) -- Tim Greer <chatmaster () charter net> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training Federal, September 29-30 (Training), October 1-2 (Briefings) in Tysons Corner, VA; the world's premier technical IT security event. Modeled after the famous Black Hat event in Las Vegas! 6 tracks, 12 training sessions, top speakers and sponsors. Symantec is the Diamond sponsor. Early-bird registration ends September 6.Visit us: www.blackhat.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- RE: ICMP (Ping) Tony Kava (Sep 04)
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- RE: ICMP (Ping) SMiller (Sep 04)
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- RE: ICMP (Ping) Gerard Marshall Vignes (Sep 05)
- RE: ICMP (Ping) Tim Greer (Sep 05)
- Re: ICMP (Ping) gregh (Sep 05)
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- Re: ICMP (Ping) Tim Greer (Sep 08)
- Re: ICMP (Ping) gregh (Sep 08)
- RE: ICMP (Ping) Tim Greer (Sep 04)
- Re: ICMP (Ping) Tomas Wolf (Sep 08)
- Re: ICMP (Ping) Tim Greer (Sep 08)
- RE: ICMP (Ping) Aditya (Sep 05)
- RE: ICMP (Ping) Christos Gioran (Sep 05)