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Re: military strike possible?
From: "J Kallberg" <jk () cyberdefense com>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:40:54 -0500
And your point? We as a joint effort in the civilized world to maintain that a legal framework, as accepted through democratic channels in our societies, is upheld on the Internet as well as in the streets and alleys, to enable people to enjoy their lives, respect each other and live in peace. Almost every nation work together to ensure that Internet is used and not abused. My comment, how do we handle a nation that instead create a business of the abuse of Internet? Why would that upset you? JK ----- Original Message ----- From: <SMiller () unimin com> To: "J Kallberg" <jk () cyberdefense com> Cc: <security-basics () securityfocus com> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 2:38 PM Subject: Re: military strike possible? Who is "we"? Some of us do not subscribe to the notion of a totalitarian "nanny state" sucking up over 40% of our earnings and making our lifestyle decisions for us. Some of us won't even shut up and pretend. Scott Miller "J Kallberg" <jk@cyberdefense. To: <security-basics () securityfocus com> com> cc: Fax to: 10/29/2003 05:10 Subject: Re: military strike possible? PM I have been waiting for awhile for some rogue Internet nations. Nations that become safe heavens for everything we want to prevent. I thought some side line dictators out there would see Internet as a revenue stream as they funnel narcotics, money laundering, arms sales, terrorist propaganda, etc. BUT not yet.... Maybe we have too few Noriegas around... And if they should up, can the Western World just hook off a nation from the Internet like cutting oil supply? JK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymer, Dan" <DRaymer () webmd net> To: "'Meritt James'" <meritt_james () bah com>; <security-basics () securityfocus com> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:08 PM Subject: RE: military strike possible? considering that intelligence can't even tell a Chinese embassy from a warehouse or where senior leadership is having a meeting, how do they expect to hit a bunch of teenage script kiddies (or heavens forbid, REAL crackers) coordinating an attack via IRC? -----Original Message----- From: Meritt James [mailto:meritt_james () bah com] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:11 AM To: 'security-basics () securityfocus com' Subject: military strike possible? Going from the premptive strike philosophy demonstrated in Mideastern countries, what are your thoughts on a military strike against (as yet unseen) "cyberterrorists" a'la http://www.msnbc.com/news/985295.asp?0si=- if there were extranational agents tampering with identified components of the infrastructure to the extent that they were risking human life? -- James W. Meritt CISSP, CISA Booz | Allen | Hamilton phone: (410) 684-6566 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forum Systems PRESIDIO: PGP / XML GATEWAY APPLIANCE The Presidio integrates PGP data encryption and XML Web Services security to simplify the management and deployment of PGP and reduce overall PGP costs by up to 80%. 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