RE: MS Admin frendily *nix distrobution / Re: to the RE:s Window s IDS

["Halverson, Chris" <chris.halverson () encana com>]

Interesting reading on this topic.
http://www.newsforge.com/os/03/10/09/0552252.shtml?tid=13

-----Original Message-----
From: me null [mailto:me_null () hotmail com] 
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:12PM
To: jimit () myrealbox com; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: MS Admin frendily *nix distrobution / Re: to the RE:s Windows IDS


Well i must say i am verry happy with the amount of replys i recieved on 
this thread. sry bout the delay in my responce, all ov your input was very 
nice and sry bout noot looking as well as i should have on snort.org

As far as *nix goes, i have been planing on getting a distro. and learning 
*nix ive just been very bussy latly. I was over on technet the otherday and 
noticed thay smartly made the conversion from *nix > M$ alot eayser via 
there doc on x-fering *nix knowladge to M$. i havnt read it but i did have 2

questions...

1 witch distrobution makes the eaysest transition from MS > *nix?
2 is there a doc the opsite of the 1 MS made? i sapose i could reverse 
enginer it but id rather not have to

you can turn off / close all of the ports in MS atleast in 2k3 i havnt tryed

it in 2k yes even 135tcp i dont mean block but close the ports. (tho u can 
block access to them 3 times over aswell) what i lack in *nix knowlage i 
make up for in MS

- thx again - me


> From: Jimi Thompson <jimit () myrealbox com>
> To: "me null" <me_null () hotmail com>,security-basics () securityfocus com
> Subject: Re: Windows IDS
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:55:24 -0600
>
> All of the best tools are going to be linux or unix based since they've 
> likely been around longer.  Personally, I consider my IDS box to be a 
> bastion host and I try to lock it down as best I can.  That's very 
> difficult to do with Windows unless you want a very broken machine.  It's 
> much easier to do with Linux or Unix.  Frankly, of all the IDS's I've see, 
> commercial and open source, SNORT rates among the highest.  I've worked for

> larger employers who insisted on testing other products, many that ran well

> into 6 figures, but most all of them ended up using SNORT.  They may have 
> bought the other stuff, but SNORT definitely has it's place.  Combined with

> per host firewalls, Tripwire, good perimeter security and Nessus to scan 
> and check on everything, you should be in good very good shape.  I'd also 
> suggest that  you scavenge something you can load RedHat, Mandrake, or SuSE

> on and start getting comfortable with Linux.
>
> 2 cents,
>
> Jimi
>
> At 2:31 PM -0500 11/6/03, me null wrote:
> > Hello everyone, ive seen alot of people recomending snort as an IDS but 
> > the only problem w/ that is im running windows. As far as the enviorment 
> > the IDS would be in... theres not alot of PCs in it, its a privet network.

> > The top few things i want are in this order
> >
> > 1 - Security of course, how good the IDS acutualy is
> > 2 - Interface, something that will not be a pain in the arse to have to 
> > deal with
> > 3 - Price, null = best
> > 4 - Funcontionalty, basic features that make life easyer ie. having logs 
> > sent to a remote pc, ect ect
> >
> > TY
> >
> > BTW about "opensource" things, is the only opensource apps / tools just 
> > for non MS platforms?  if i made an IDS for windows i would have it be 
> > open source
> >
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